Monday, October 24, 2011

Selectmen seeking members for substance abuse prevention task force

The newly formed Town of Sandwich Substance Abuse Prevention Task Force is still accepting letters of interest for two at large members.

If you are interested in serving on this Task Force please send a letter of interest to the Board of Selectmen at Sandwich Town Hall, 130 Main St., Sandwich 02563-2208 or email selectmen@townofsandwich.net.

The Task Force is meeting monthly during the formation stage. Meetings are generally during the late afternoon on weekdays. There are also sub-committees being formed to deal with development specifics such as outreach, strategy and grant writing.

The Task Force was formed by the Board of Selectmen. It is a coalition of municipal and school leadership as well as representation from the nonprofit world devoted to youth. The mission of the Task Force is to develop a comprehensive town wide approach to prevention of substance abuse.

The deadline for letters of interest is November 2nd.

59 comments:

  1. Been there done that, we don't have an abuse problem in this Town, can you say heads in the sand?

    I really wish this new team the best of luck!

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  2. Sadly once again the town is making it difficult for the people that care about our kids to be there for them. The vast majority of parents with school age kids are working during the day. Therefore the cant's be apart of such an important focus. We care about our kids and town, stop having meetings that only Retirees and "Consultants" can attend! It's time for the 30's, 40's and early 50's to have a say in our town!

    Just frustrated with another attempt with the status quo to keep runing the town. Nothing will change until an effort is made by people to be more inclusive of all segments of our population.

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  3. Sadly, one Selectman is trying to grab the power of the committee.

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  4. I do not care about other communities, I care about Sandwich. I have lived here for many years and have attended its schools. There is a MASSIVE amount of drugs. Its time to fess up and do something about the problem. We can not hide it any longer with words such as "it's everywhere, not just here". I think that everywhere should address it's problems just as Sandwich should. Politicians should not be on the committee, they only play politics with a very serious problem. The Town managers that are on the committee is fine, but the pols, forget about them.

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  5. Anon 7:03 Sorry for the typos, that's what I get for rushing in the early hours of the day.

    Clarification I didn't mean that retirees and "consultants" don't care about our kids, just that the individuals that are dealing with the kids right now, need to be able to participate in the dialogue. We can't because, the vast majority aren't available during the day.

    The 30, 40 and folks in there early 50's are the ones that need to be more involved in the conversations about our kids and the direction of where the town is going. Please start making meetings accessible to everyone in town, not just the few!

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  6. Sad to see the typical negative attitudes about a worthy endeavor. The work of this group has been very constructive so far. It is frankly silly to think that politicians do not have a place at the table when in fact it is only with the energy of the political leadership united in creating this work as priority for the town, that anything long lasting will be accomplished. This is a coalition that will get something done and it will need all the help it can get. I wish it well and hope small town political thinking doesn't get in the way of something good happening for our kids and our town. Save the accusations for the drug dealers.

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  7. Good point anon 8:47. It is my understanding that there is nothing set in stone about when the task force will meet on going. Right now, as I listen to the reports, they are trying to get organized. I believe they have only met twice and not all members naturally have been at both meetings. The sub-committees seem key and those are meeting to work with people's schedules I'm told. Give it a chance, get your letter in and I think it will work.

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  8. Mrs. Grundman making her usual all-about-her power grab & complaining about small town politics. Can't have it both ways. Anyone tired of listening to her will not want to get involved. But there are other people on it so hopefully it can work. Agree w/anon 8:47, hope they make an effort to reach out to us parents who work days. Won't hold my breath. What say you Ralph, pretty sure we heard from Linell at 9:14.

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  9. Linnel, don't be afraid to put your name to your posts if you post.

    This group would function much better if the pols did not control, structure, direct, and steer the committee to their agenda.

    Selectmen do not want to get involved with a charter review, but do get involved with a committee to help resolve drug problems. Why"?, because they have a need to "protect" the town from the real truth. Hopefully, strong individuals such as the Chief of Police and other town department people can pull in the truth and wrest control from the pols who try to control. This committe must work or Sandwich is in trouble. We know who Linnel wants and does not want on the committee; let's see what happens.

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  10. Someone told me I needed to look at this so I did. Please feel free to give me a call. 508.888.2601 The meetings are posted. Come to one and see for yourself. It's a great group of people.

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  11. I don't need to come to the meetings to know that there will be a power grab. What I would like to know is if the pols on the committee are going to grab the limelight-- I am sure they will. The Pols should be on the Charter Commission not this which is personal to many, even some Pols, but they need to let the true operators of the Town deal with the people. I don't need to overhear what went on in a twisted fashion at Cafe Chew. Keep the Pols out and the committee will do very well freely witout small Town politics. One thing I agree with Ms. Grundman is that it is a good committee with good people. If per chance she does still stay on the committee, I suggest that she speak to the Chief of Police about the Sandwich taxpayer who was not treated properly that was in another blog.

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  12. It just is not the case that the SC or BOS this committee are trying to grab limelight or anything. That just isn't the case. It gets talked about in public to keep the public informed. We are all happy that the stars have lined up to get this going at this time and owe a big debt to the Cape Your Project who got the ball rolling by trying to put together a community coalition in order to go for a grant. I think you are mistaken about the motives of so called politicians at the table. It is essential to have elected officials involved in this for many reasons.

    This Committee is charged with developing a comprehensive Substance Abuse Prevention Program for the town. It is not a committee that will be running anything but putting together a plan, likely to involve grants that will bring funding to the town to address the issues of Substance Abuse. It is a time sensitive committee that will hopefully succeed in developing something that will be institutionalized over the next few years.

    It sounds like you got bad treatment in a blog. Obviously I can relate. Glad you went to the police.

    As far as the Charter Review Committee is concerned, Selectman do not serve on that, but this BOS has made it clear that they will be up front with the Committee when it begins, about there individual or collective ideas.

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  13. Sorry for the typos. It is Cape Youth Project that really got the ball rolling, in terms of forming a coalition to work on these critical issues for our town. Seriously, no one has anything in mind beyond finding a way to help. There is no political motivation here. You have seasoned folks stepping up to the plate for the good of our youth and our town, nothing more. Thank you Randy for posting the advert for the at large members. Thank you to all those who are willing to give their time to this worthy endeavor.

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  14. I know how the committee started. My point is really quite simple. Let it run itself and keep it away from the selectpeople. They should not serve on such an important committee. I speak of only one politician and know that the politician will take the lead in every aspect and wrest control...not a good thing.

    I have never had any problems with the police other than one unfair parking ticket in Swansea some 20 years ago. I went to the Sandwich Citizens Acadamy and loved it. I believe it was you on this blog that knew of someone who had been abused by the police. As a leader you should have taken it to the Chief. I have never been, to my knowledge abused on a blog, and, if I were, I would just ignore it, you should too.

    As for the Charter Review Committee. You say that the Selectmen do not serve on it, you should have said the selectmen CHOSE not to serve on it. My dad is currently on one and he is a selectmen in Western Massachusetts, so you see, you can serve and can lead and make a difference because you as a selectmen probably know more about what is in the charter than some of the people you have selected.

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  15. Once again, discussion has been hijacked by a single person.

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  16. I dont think we can fault selectmen for not taking on another task withnthe charter commission. The charter is easy to read and says what selectmen can and can not do. Why dont YOU apply?

    It seems like those that complain most do least.

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  17. I don't apply because unfortunately I work nights. I have applied for another committee that tends to meet days. I do have a question, if the Charter is so easy to read then why all the hoopla by the Selectmen about it. I agree it is simple, but I also agree that the task force on drugs should be lead by professionals, not Selectmen.

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  18. I would like to hear a comment from the Selectman about the "abrupt" departure of the Sandwich town planner.

    What really happened?

    The town is going to vote on zoning changes in just about a week. There are major changes that will impact everyone and could hurt many property owners. The Planning Board meetings that were held at the end of August were only noticed in the Cape Cod Times(why not the Sandwich Enterprise?) and that is probably the reason no one from the public showed up to comment.

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  19. There you go folks, the last poster was straight on. Secrets, secrets, secrets...that's what you get. I heard, maybe its wrong, that the planner was a little upset at the Selectmens' take on the zoning changes. They need to tell us why. Does anyone know if this is the end of major zoning changes or is there another batch for the Spring TM. I, for one, am happy that this blog was hijacked.

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  20. Well I also heard that the Planning Board never got the new zoning definitions until the evening of August 31 when they asked for a copy near the end of the meeting..this is the meeting they were approving the changes...and even after they talked about them many changed AGAIN after that meeting....and the ones that changed matter the most to "regular" property owners.

    AND some of the ones on the warrant differ from the definitions approved that night!!!! The important ones!

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  21. TOS article 13 will allow 14 to 20 hotel/motel rooms on 2 building lots in some zones. I for one am not in favor of a 20 unit lodging joint being allowed near my home.

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  22. One would think that there would be some sort of interest in substance abuse in this Town, don't ya think?

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  23. The no-spin zone asks.....November 1, 2011 at 1:44 PM

    I am not sure that Sandwich has any more of a problem than most if not all towns of its size, however, I am sure that the elected leaders of the town would just as soon bury the true message that will want to come out from those that are in the know. Part of me says that elected selectmen should be a part of the committee and part of me says it should not. I would simply ask, especially from those who know and understand young people today, what say you?

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  24. Concerned says
    The TOS warrant article #13 on hotels will be changed. the new article will read "... must be increased by 200 sq ft per guest unit..." This replaces the 12000 sq ft of lot area in the current bylaw and 3000 sq ft in the orignal warrant article.
    In other words the # of potental rooms will increase 60 times. so a potential 4 room motel will be able to go to 240 rooms, this is being slid in at the 11th hour.
    (I am not tring to hyjack this thread but I dont know how to start a new one.)
    I for one will vote against it.

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  25. Randy,
    What is the state's responsiability in fixing John Ewer road due to the fact that there is a state owned boat ramp at the end of it that is open to the public. The most noticeable damage to John Ewer is at the entrance to the ramp caused by the leaking of gas and oil from boat engines. This has had a major effect on the breakdown of the pavement. Althouth the marine engines of today are much more enviromentally friendly than the motors of twenty years ago, the damage has been done.
    What happends if the residents of John Ewer close their road to the public? Is this within their rights as owners of a private road? I find it much easier to launch my boat at the state boat ramp than the town owned ramp at Oakcrest Cove. The state ramp is wider, not as steep, and the parking is only a few feet away. I would hate to lose this access!
    Fisherman Pete

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  26. Fisherman Pete, email me at randy.hunt@mahouse.gov and I'll send you a copy of correspondence from yesterday on this issue that explains a lot.

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  27. Oct 27 comment by Mrs. Grundmen

    I thought this committee would keep the community informed. Why have I not heard more. There have been at least three meetings.

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  28. There has been one meeting since Oct 27th and an extensive article in the Enterprise following that meeting. There was to be an article last Friday about a program the group is sponsoring called Sandwich Cares, but it will be in this Friday's paper. Minutes are at the Town Clerks office. The meetings are posted.

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  29. Thank you Ms. Grundman, but my point is that many Sandwich people are not getting the word.

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  30. In Ms. Grundman's and the board of selectmen's defense, it is always the case that 5% or fewer of the residents of any town actually pay close attention to what's going on. Watching board meetings on TV, reading the weekly papers, putting your email address on the town's email blast list (yes, you can do that), are all things that people "in the know" do to be "in the know."

    Channel 13, 14 & 15's schedule not good for you? You can watch these shows online at your leisure. http://www.sandwichtv.org

    Clearly, the town doesn't have the funds to mail a monthly or quarterly newsletter to everyone (not that many people would bother to read it), so you have to make an effort to stay informed.

    Look at the outcry on the private road plowing policy. This policy was completed two years ago and was going to be implemented last year, but the decision was made to hold off in order to give people additional time to upgrade their private roads to the new standard. When the policy was implemented this year, people acted as if the entire policy was sprung on them with no advanced notice.

    It's impossible to force people to pay attention to what's going on until something pops up that affects them directly. I don't fault anyone for not having the time, I'm just saying it's the way it is.

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  31. Thanks Randy. There are a few other points about the SAPTF that I think might help. These are also general points about research and information and refer to consistent resources in town government to help people who are interested in a particular committee/task force or issue. People may not be aware of these resources.

    The most important is the Town Clerks office. I say that because they are up to date whereas our web-site has to have information entered in. In the TC Office a person can find out by phone or through visiting or I would imagine via email, when committees meet and can have copies of their minutes. MInutes should provide a narrative and up to date information. The Town Hall retains lists of committee/task force members with contact information. Contacting any member of the group would be access to information. So any day of the week people can get information.

    Randy is right and it seems natural to me that not everyone pays attention. But there are many ways to research any and all aspects of our town governments activities since transparency is key. Do I think we can do a better job of outreach...yes and I think the SAPTF as well as the Comprehensive Water Resource Management Plan steering committee (WQAC) is trying, along with other groups. Where both are concerned our local paper has been generous enough to allow guest columns about the work of both the groups on a regular basis.

    There are only so many places information can go and we do need to make the most of it. But again, the best resource for information in my opinion is the Town Clerks Office and of course our town web-stie. Contacting members of the committee is always a good way as well. You can also ask to be put on a distribution list for meeting reminders, etc. Please feel free also to contact me at any time. I will pass on this observation to the outreach team for the SAPTF. They are working on this issue. Thanks.

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  32. Ms. Grundman, I was told by a member of the task force and a Town employee that the committee has met more than once. Was that person or you incorrect?

    I agree that people should avail themselves of all the tools that can be used to keep informed. Sometimes just listening to the opening remarks of the Selectmen will give oneself a sense of what is happening as they all seem to be telling us if and when they do something. Also, open forum gets out information.

    I question, not being a guru of the electronic age, why the Town Clerk could not post meetings and minutes within 24 hours of receipt. Or, if the Town Clerk can not do it, then what about the Selectmen's office.

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  33. Carl Johansen would state that
    any one whom really need to find out what is happening in our community is available. We all just need to look in the right places.

    As mentioned above every meeting held in the town of Sandwich is posted in the town clerks office. The Sandwich Enterprise has a block in most issues, as to what is being planned for that week. Special concerns can be address by the clerk for the town adminastrator. Each part of town government in many cases have posted bulletins, as to upcomming events.

    Carl Johansen

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  34. Ms Grundman. Over the years I may have appeared rude in my discussions of the BOS but I will say this, you have earned my total respect for the way you continue to tackle issues in town and never, ever take the I'm right, you are wrong position. Thanks for keeping your ears open and available to the town's residents, even if they disagree with you. Your participation and willingness to get involved in some very sticky issues remind me a lot of Randy when he was young...younger? :) So, from one old blogger in town, I thank you for your service.

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  35. Greg, Thank you very much for your kind and encouraging words. I'm older than Randy, by the way. I turn 60 in a few weeks. It is such an honor to work for the people of this town and never dull. The town has to keep on keeping on. Rapid growth has created enormous challenges for Sandwich and much, if not all, of the Cape. Working together we will no doubt keep moving forward.

    Anon 2:03. I thought you were asking how many times the Task Force had met since Oct. 27th, which is one time. It has met 3 times total since the BOS voted to start it. We got a late start because our first meeting conflicted with the August hurricane so the Task Force didn't get started till September. The sub-groups have also met.

    The Town Clerk doesn't post minutes, he files them. But it probably is his office that gets them to the town's web-site. Once the minutes have been brought to the TC office, they are signed in and filed and available for anyone to see. When the minutes get there is up to the committee. There are only a few committees who have paid staff responsible for minutes. Most minute taking is done by the volunteer arm of our town government.

    Hope that helps. Glad I took a peak at the blog today.

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  36. Ms. Grundman, I did know that there were at least two meetings and possibly three. Unfortunately I can not sit around coffee shops reading newspapers, talking with people and walking to town hall. I just wondered why we just could not make it another task for the Town Clerk to post all minutes. Now, isn't that a novel idea, that the People recieve info.

    Unlike some who point out where information can be sought out, I suggest an idea that is more convenient such as Town Clerk postings. If that office posted everything online, then I and my spouse could go to work and not have to take time off or pay for a newspaper.

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  37. Anonymous 2:03, I will check on how the minutes get from TC's office to the Town's Web-site. Minutes are posted there but I will check as to, by whom and how often. A good process of making sure minutes are posted ASAP will benefit all. To my knowledge that process is in place. The Town web-site has a place for minutes for all the town Boards and Committees. Getting information electronically is my main source of information gathering. I do see your point. Please feel free to ask to be on the distribution list for the SAPTF. It sounds like that may be a time efficient way for you to get information about the task force.

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  38. Carl Johansen would state that the above recommendation to post all minutes of all committees and special interest groups on the towns web site would be a grave task to undertake, however it may well be worth the expence to further inform the citizens of Sandwich what is going on in a more personal way. The majority of meetings held around the town are now reguired to submit a recording of the meeting to the town clerks office. These recorded minutes can be obtained from his office for a slight fee and you can go home and listen to the whole discussion and what actually was discussed. You will surprised as to what you will hear with some of the discussions recorded.

    I expect that a program is available to have these meetings uploaded to a main frame where any one with a computor could punch up the actual minutes and all of its words for any one with a computor could find.

    I think that would be a great idea and perhaps one may need to make an experiment to see what shakes out as to the difficulty of doing what is mentioned above by others in this matter.


    Carl Johansen

    A concerned citizen of Sandwich

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  39. What is a mainframe?

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  40. I talked to the Town Clerk today and was very pleased to find out that minutes automatically go to the Town web-site from most committees once they are received in the Town Clerks office. He has a very good system.

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  41. Ms. Grundman, Thank you so much for looking into the placing of minutes on the Town Website.
    It looks like Taylor White deserves much credit for his work towards government transparency. The people of Sandwich owe him a debt of gratitude for all his very hard work.

    I was looking for information from the last meeting and I guess that it has yet to be voted upon, but I do not see anything from the prior two meetings. Are they available? If not so, then why; it has been a while since those meetings took place.

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  42. Mr. J, Your investigation failed to show that the Town Clerk posts all the minutes as they are received. Therefore your saying that for the Town Clerk's office to post these meetings would be a "grave" task. That being said, its good to know we have a Town Clerk who can accomplish monumental tasks.

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  43. Oh, I forgot....It might be a good idea for Mr. White to get the word out again, maybe on Cable notices, newspapers, SC and BOS meetings so that the interested general public would know. Based upon what I reviewed of the website it appears that it either took some boards a long time to get the minutes in or the minutes were quite late even with the gray area of timliness in the law. Maybe each board should discuss the status' of all outstanding minutes at every meeting. I am sure that would speed things up. I found it interesting that there were essentially only a few subcommittee minutes. Is something being hidden from "We the People".

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  44. Carl Johansen would state to 11.26 that the condensed minutes of every meeting is posted on line once the minutes have been approved by the respective boards.


    The recorded meeting is not, nor as in some cases all of the actual dialog that occurs. One is able to obtain a copy of the recorded meeting from the town clerk however is available. In many cases the whole meeting may take several hours to listen to.

    It would take a very large storage facility to be able to accomadate all of that information and that is what I am referring to when I speak to a main frame that has the actual capacity to store thousands of meeting hours that it would need in order for one to listen and or view.

    The minutes of any meeting are a condensed transciption of what the respective secretary may place in the records, that is now placed on our town web site.

    I hope that clarifies the difference for you.

    Carl Johansen

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  45. Just wondering, minutes have been turned in, except for Nov. 15. I'll check on it.

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  46. Mr. J, thanks for telling me what I already knew, it re-enforces my thoughts.

    Ms. Grundman, thank you so much. Obviously the minutes don't get posted quickly.

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  47. Carl Johansen would state that the town clerks office has advanced the ability of the average taxpayer to obtain information from his office.

    Mr. White and his office have made many changes to how the recodings and minutes were once done.
    All for the benifit of the town.


    With out question one may still have questions, when it comes to how the minutes are transcribed into a written report and that is why any one who really wants to see what actually occured need to obtain the recorded version, which does not leave out in some cases , some very important dialog. You get to hear how in some cases things that are not recorded in the written minutes.

    Carl Johansen

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  48. Just following this latest thread on taking meeting minutes and I can tell you from my past experiences that the MOST expensive line item on one contract was to have verbatim minutes produced for us by a company. The cost was exorbitant because it is extremely labor intensive. Paying someone to transcribe the spoken words exactly as they were spoken takes time and unless the employee is totally dedicated to just that task, it can take weeks to produce them. Government agencies love to contract this item whenever it pops up. Most of the newer public address systems with multiple microphones, such as used at the BOS meetings, have a recording capability. I am sure Bud Dunham does not have the luxury of dedicating an employee to produce verbatim minutes. If the recordings are available it puts the time element onto the shoulders of the individual seeking the public information, where it belongs. I think the greatest thing to come along in our town is the availability of the videos on SACAT. I enjoy the ability to watch the individuals state their positions, inflection is a critical component of speech, methinks. Once again, trying to video the substance abuse meetings could have a negative effect. So many folks worry about political correctness when a camera is staring at them, some things might not be said. Taylor White is leaping the town into the future for sure!

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  49. Carl, I am in complete agreement with you. I would just like to try to read into your comment that maybe the minutes that are written do not tell us the whole story. With that I can agree, but I would also go further to state that the openess of government can be thwarted by what looks to me to be a total hoodwinking of the truth. Example, the SC, at least in the last several months, has an agenda item for approving the warrant. Notwithstanding the fact that, in my opinion at least, the general public has no idea of what the warrant is, it is voted in without reguard to any discussion. How is it that the committee could have approved five to ten million dollars without any discussion of any of the checks to be paid out from the warrant?? One could simply create a template for that particular agenda item. The only need would be to fill in whomever makes or seconds the motion. The whole item to me is a joke. I am not stupid, I just want to know why they don't question anything on the warrant in months no less at one meeting. Maybe that is why we pay so much in taxes.

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  50. I would agree with Greg.

    Sandwich Community Television is an exact record of the meetings it tapes. The tapes are kept for that reason. SCT now does a tremendous service for the community by making the meeting tapes available on their web-site. That in itself creates a sequential record of the major meetings people can access easily. Now that the Fin Com is being taped, it is even more helpful in terms of following issues.

    Going consistently to the BOS, SC, and Fin Com meetings was one way I tried to educate myself about town government and now it is even easier, since all three major committee meetings are taped. Public access television has been a major step forward in terms of transparency. But SCT can't tape all the meetings.

    I did some further checking. A group such as the Substance Abuse Prevention Task Force, which may be temporary, does not automatically go on the web-site. Creating the capability for that through the electronic measures Taylor White has initiated in Town Clerks office is complicated and it makes sense that it is not something done for all groups until it is certain they will become a lasting group. But minutes can be had by going to the Town Clerks office or they will send them to people.

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  51. Zoning Board of Appeals meeting notice
    This comming ZBA meeting notice has not been posted on the TOS web site. When you go to the calendar on the TOS web site it shows Board of Helth minuts.
    This ZBA meeting is going to be held at town Hall, because of a large forcast attendence, not Jan Sabastian at a time unknown.
    I was under the impression the town has to post the meeting notice 24 hrs in advance and availble to the public 24/7. It is my impression this upcomming meeting may be an illigle meeting because of improper posting.
    could be a huge waste of resorces.

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  52. Carl Johansen would state to Faith , Your observations are well put. I have explored many minutes of meetings held by town government and if you did not follow the broadcast of a particular meeting or were in attendance, it would be very difficult in some cases to verify what actually transpired.

    The use of tapes by the town is slowly being changed over to DVD records, where the voices can be heard clear and you can follow the whole meeting. Most recordings By tape are in some cases useless to discern any information, especially when the tapes have been used and erased over many Meetings. I can say that some boards found that to be a good thing, as the meeting in some cases were erased after the fact.

    The use of the original DVD recording makes that a more honest process and Mr. White has provided the leadership to bring a more timely and transparent recording that any one, for a small fee can get a copy of.

    In the past if one was listing to a tape of a particular meeting, because it needed to be played on a recorder. any one by mistake or on purpose could erase part of the meeting and unless you were at the meeting would never know it had been changed. That is no longer the case. as I understand it.

    One can thank Mr. White and his staff in providing this transparency to our community.

    Keep in mind the written minutes are only a condensed version, unlike the DVD recording, which can last for many hours.

    Carl Johansen

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  53. Concerned,
    I would suspect the meeting is posted at the Town Clerk's office which is the legal place for public posting. The web-site is not. If the meeting is posted in the Town Clerk's office 48 hours prior to the meeting it is a legal meeting. Check Friday's Enterprise as well. There is a list there of the upcoming weeks town government meetings. That list appears each Friday in the Enterprise.

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  54. Ms. Grundman, I believe you are correct about the legal posting of meetings, unfortunately, that is not a viable place for the posting of meetings, in my opinion. Back in the days of the ten men from Saugus, that may have worked, but today, with working couples, many elederly who seldom get out, and people who live in the far reaches of Town, for them, it would be better if we could computerize the postings and make it legal. I think that perhaps those who make such laws concerning the postings might be afraid of systems going down and postings not being made. The problem is philisophical to some extent as to the best method of getting the word out. If I were in charge, I would make it Town Clerk as it is now, Town website as it is now, Cable TV, Email and a dedicated phone line with a recording. This would ensure that more people have the ability to check meetings.
    All four methods are better than the least effective of the four (Town Clerk Postings).

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  55. Angelica, Your comments goes to an aspect of the new open meeting law that addresses where meetings are posted. The new law recognizes that postings need to be in public places but does not specifically call for electronic postings as the solution. The town web-site does do a good job of keeping up with meetings. The fact that they have to be posted 48 hours in advance is help. It use to be 24 hours in advance. The Enterprise Newspaper lists meetings for the upcoming week on a consistent basis. I have found them to be accurate. One can call the Town Clerks office during office hours to find out about meetings. But I agree, there is always room for improvement. Lastly, I know people ask to be on distribution lists for specific Boards and Committee, so they can receive meeting notice and agendas.

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  56. Ms. Grundman, Thank you very much. You are helpful, caring and informative.

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  57. Angelica, Thank you for your kind and uplifting words. I do appreciate your kindness.

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  58. Has anyone heard if this group is accomplishing anything? It seems to me that for it to be successful then it must be one that is visable, and for sure this one is not.

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  59. The group will be meeting this month and working towards applying for a Drug Free Community Grant. Leadership changed in mid-November and with holidays etc, the group is just now gearing up again with a definite action item. The next meeting will be posted. Thanks for your interest.

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